Comments on: Deciding SN1/SN2/E1/E2 (2) – The Nucleophile/Base https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2012/11/30/deciding-sn1sn2e1e2-2-the-nucleophilebase/ Thu, 21 Mar 2024 09:50:54 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.2 By: Is NaCl weak base? - All-About-The-Magic https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2012/11/30/deciding-sn1sn2e1e2-2-the-nucleophilebase/#comment-632335 Thu, 07 Jul 2022 14:49:33 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=6762#comment-632335 […] Is NaOH a strong Nucleophile? […]

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2012/11/30/deciding-sn1sn2e1e2-2-the-nucleophilebase/#comment-627798 Thu, 19 May 2022 19:57:05 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=6762#comment-627798 In reply to Anant.

Primary alkyl halides generally give SN2. The only exception would be something like neopentyl halides, which are very sterically hindered.

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2012/11/30/deciding-sn1sn2e1e2-2-the-nucleophilebase/#comment-627797 Thu, 19 May 2022 19:56:19 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=6762#comment-627797 In reply to Naruto.

The terminal alkyne will deprotonate first to make the acetylide. After that, the acetylide will deprotonate 2-bromo-2methylpropane to give an alkene (E2).

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By: Naruto https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2012/11/30/deciding-sn1sn2e1e2-2-the-nucleophilebase/#comment-627596 Mon, 16 May 2022 10:35:10 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=6762#comment-627596 Sir if we have 2-bromo-2-methylpropane and react with HCC-CH3 propyne in presence of NaNH2 . So will se get an E2 or a SN2 product as major product ?

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By: Anant https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2012/11/30/deciding-sn1sn2e1e2-2-the-nucleophilebase/#comment-627479 Sat, 14 May 2022 20:05:08 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=6762#comment-627479 Primary alkyl halide + aq. KOH , product is decided by SN2 or E2 ?my teacher told it follow SN2 but according to quick and dirty method it will go for E2 ( as water is polar protic solvent ).Sir please tell the answer.I am very confused ?

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2012/11/30/deciding-sn1sn2e1e2-2-the-nucleophilebase/#comment-604485 Tue, 17 Aug 2021 18:15:44 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=6762#comment-604485 In reply to S Kumar.

Your textbook actually does a better job of describing reality than most textbooks do. In reality the SN2 is pretty tough for secondary alkyl halides/ tosylates. May I ask what textbook you are using?

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By: S Kumar https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2012/11/30/deciding-sn1sn2e1e2-2-the-nucleophilebase/#comment-604396 Sun, 15 Aug 2021 03:58:59 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=6762#comment-604396 According to my textbook, why is it that when secondary alkyl halide tosylates react with alkoxides in DMSO, they form alkenes predominating (85%) over ethers? A polar aprotic solvent should favour Sn2 over E2, and tosylates are a very good leaving group. Shouldn’t this favour the nucleophile instead of the elimination? Thank you.

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2012/11/30/deciding-sn1sn2e1e2-2-the-nucleophilebase/#comment-581046 Wed, 10 Jun 2020 14:56:24 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=6762#comment-581046 In reply to Yeny.

Really, it’s a more quantitiative way of saying that hydroxide and alkoxides (pKa of conjugate acid around 14 and above) will tend to do eliminations, but thiolates (pka of conjugate acid around 10-11) will do substitutions.

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By: Yeny https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2012/11/30/deciding-sn1sn2e1e2-2-the-nucleophilebase/#comment-581025 Wed, 10 Jun 2020 00:27:03 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=6762#comment-581025 Thank you for this!!!

One question I have is when you say, “Here’s a good rule of thumb: if the conjugate acid of the base/nucleophile is less than 12” are you referring to pKa = 12 ?

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2012/11/30/deciding-sn1sn2e1e2-2-the-nucleophilebase/#comment-563966 Fri, 13 Sep 2019 16:30:55 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=6762#comment-563966 In reply to Sania.

Start by drawing out the molecule. Your leaving group is S(CH3)2 and there should be a positive charge on the sulfur. You’re going to form a new pi bond by losing this leaving group and also a C-H bond on the carbon adjacent to the carbon bearing the sulfur. Try to draw out those potential products.

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