Comments on: Halogenation of Alkenes and Halohydrin Formation https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2013/03/15/alkene-bromination-mechanism/ Fri, 24 May 2024 07:28:07 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.2 By: Indileni https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2013/03/15/alkene-bromination-mechanism/#comment-694636 Fri, 24 May 2024 07:28:07 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=7117#comment-694636 Draw out the mechanism of the reaction between bromine water and propen giving the bromohydrin and predict which of the two possible bromohydrins CH3CH or CH2OH or CH3CH(OH)CH2Br will be formed.

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By: Jessica Reel https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2013/03/15/alkene-bromination-mechanism/#comment-675947 Fri, 03 Nov 2023 18:32:53 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=7117#comment-675947 Good morning! You may wish to double-check your oxidation numbers in this note:

[Worth noting: bromination of alkenes is technically an oxidation reaction, because each carbon goes from being bound to another carbon (0) to bromine (–1). The oxidation state of each carbon in ethene is +2; the oxidation state of each carbon in dibromoethane is +1. ]

This is in Section 8: Some Applications of Halogenation Reactions. Oxidation number should become more positive / less negative if carbon is being oxidized (which it is here). Looks like the numbers are right but the sign is incorrect. Thank you :)

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2013/03/15/alkene-bromination-mechanism/#comment-668418 Fri, 25 Aug 2023 16:35:08 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=7117#comment-668418 In reply to David.

The leaving group is excellent, first of all. The C-halogen bond length is much longer than a normal C-leaving group bond length. (e.g. 2.48 A for C-I in the iodonium vs 2.13 A for normal C-I).

Secondly, because of the 3-membered ring, the geometry on the carbons is not the same as in your typical tetrahedral carbon, so there is more “room” for the nucleophile to approach.

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2013/03/15/alkene-bromination-mechanism/#comment-552816 Mon, 15 Apr 2019 18:24:04 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=7117#comment-552816 In reply to julia.

No, what happens is that you form the bromonium ion with Br2 and then Cl(-) is the active nucleophile which attacks the resulting bromonium ion at the most substituted position.
Kind of a strange question though, because they probably don’t mention solvent. NaCl is not going to dissolve in an organic solvent. Better choice would have been Bu4N+ Cl- .

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By: julia https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2013/03/15/alkene-bromination-mechanism/#comment-544415 Wed, 28 Nov 2018 22:58:54 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=7117#comment-544415 Hello,

I’m studying for a quiz and the problem I came across was an alkene addition with Br-Br and NaCl. I know that the Cl should add first but I can’t seem to figure out the mechanism for it.

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By: James https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2013/03/15/alkene-bromination-mechanism/#comment-544406 Wed, 28 Nov 2018 19:24:04 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=7117#comment-544406 In reply to Donna.

See this post: https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2017/04/11/more-on-12-and-14-additions-to-dienes/

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By: Dan https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2013/03/15/alkene-bromination-mechanism/#comment-544395 Wed, 28 Nov 2018 14:25:18 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=7117#comment-544395 In reply to Idan.

Hi Idan. The reason the second attack occurs on the more substituted carbon, instead of the less substituted, is explained by the following. In the transition state leading to the product, one C-Br bond in the bromonium ion is already partially broken. Therefore, one of the two C atoms will bear a partial positive charge–it will be cation-like, in other words. Now, think about the relative stability of carbocations. Since more substituted carbocations are more stable, the more substituted carbon will undergo partial C-Br bond cleavage, and therefore nucleophilic attack will preferentially occur at the tertiary carbon in the above example.

While you’re right that the more substituted carbon is more sterically hindered, this effect is less important than the electronic effect of carbocation stability.

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By: David https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2013/03/15/alkene-bromination-mechanism/#comment-523881 Tue, 28 Nov 2017 02:00:18 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=7117#comment-523881 How can we invoke an sn2 type ring opening on a tertiary carbon to give the most substituted alcohol? Why is the regioselectivity of the ring opening opposite from that observed for epoxide opening under basic conditions?

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By: Donna https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2013/03/15/alkene-bromination-mechanism/#comment-509315 Sun, 19 Mar 2017 04:27:09 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=7117#comment-509315 Good day Sir. I understand that halogenation reactions of alkenes involve the bridge ion as intermediate, and that no rearrangement occurs. But I don’t get how a 1,4 addition product is produced when conjugated dienes are involved as starting material. Since the intermediate is a bridge ion, how can resonance be formed? Thank you in advance for your reply.

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By: JAYANTA SARKAR https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2013/03/15/alkene-bromination-mechanism/#comment-469564 Mon, 25 Jul 2016 01:55:36 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=7117#comment-469564 How can i synthesis only cis dibromo alkane from an alkene ?

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