Comments on: Hydroboration Oxidation of Alkenes https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2013/03/28/hydroboration-of-alkenes-the-mechanism/ Wed, 20 Mar 2024 19:01:33 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.2 By: Ushindi Muna https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2013/03/28/hydroboration-of-alkenes-the-mechanism/#comment-686451 Sun, 03 Mar 2024 04:00:21 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=7165#comment-686451 Why are most substituted carbons more positive in charge. Seems counter intuitive since carbons are electron donating, so the carbon with more carbons attached to it should have a partial negative charge since there is a higher electron concentration right? Why is it the other way around.

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2013/03/28/hydroboration-of-alkenes-the-mechanism/#comment-650620 Tue, 21 Mar 2023 14:33:19 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=7165#comment-650620 In reply to Mark Springsteel.

Nice! As the parent of a toddler, it resonates.

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By: Mark Springsteel https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2013/03/28/hydroboration-of-alkenes-the-mechanism/#comment-650545 Mon, 20 Mar 2023 04:45:50 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=7165#comment-650545 I tell my students Boron is just a whiner, never happy, always complaining; “I want an Octet, everyone else has an octet, except H but it doesn’t even want an octet. Wait now I have a Negative Charge, I don’t want a Negative Charge…”. Then I say Al is a more aggressive whiner, its just angry! “I WANT AN OCTET NOW!”
If interested see slides 10 and 11 of my animation about reductions with NaBH4 and LiAlH4. Fun stuff…

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1u1YSKJN2D9nRz0BkG18prvmlSnURum1fOsMoafurJ5U/edit#slide=id.p4

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2013/03/28/hydroboration-of-alkenes-the-mechanism/#comment-648157 Wed, 15 Feb 2023 02:35:59 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=7165#comment-648157 In reply to mikel Do.

Br is bromine (electronegativity 3.0). The symbol for boron is B (electronegativity 2.0)

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By: mikel Do https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2013/03/28/hydroboration-of-alkenes-the-mechanism/#comment-648021 Mon, 13 Feb 2023 10:18:39 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=7165#comment-648021 Hello!
I thought that electronegativity was a constant for an atom. You indicate H=2.2, Cl=3.2, Br=3.0.
OK, this is the value given in the periodic table.
But further down, you indicate that in BH3, boron is less electronegative than H: if electronegativity is a constant, I don’t understand anymore? Why is that?

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2013/03/28/hydroboration-of-alkenes-the-mechanism/#comment-615320 Tue, 07 Dec 2021 18:44:48 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=7165#comment-615320 In reply to Freeman John.

The partial positive charge reflects the (slight) polarization of the B-H bond, and in turn helps to rationalize the anti-Markovnikov regioselectivity.

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By: Freeman John https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2013/03/28/hydroboration-of-alkenes-the-mechanism/#comment-614199 Mon, 22 Nov 2021 01:56:55 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=7165#comment-614199 In the transition state, the boron should have a partial negative charge (not positive). The B in borane is electrophilic with only 6 valence electrons, and so when the alkene forms a bond to B, it gains a partial negative charge. Hence, at the end of the other double bond, the carbon bears a partial positive charge. Don’t use the electronegativity analogy here, but rather the formal charge.

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By: Hydroboration-Oxidation: Definition, Examples, and Mechanism https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2013/03/28/hydroboration-of-alkenes-the-mechanism/#comment-575716 Sat, 01 Feb 2020 07:35:20 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=7165#comment-575716 […] Mechanism – Masterorganicchemistry.com […]

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2013/03/28/hydroboration-of-alkenes-the-mechanism/#comment-557680 Mon, 08 Jul 2019 03:53:00 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=7165#comment-557680 In reply to Nayara.

OK, thank you Nayara!

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2013/03/28/hydroboration-of-alkenes-the-mechanism/#comment-557679 Mon, 08 Jul 2019 03:52:51 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=7165#comment-557679 In reply to Wei.

Compare the electronegativities of B and H and tell me where the dipole should be in the B-H bond?

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