Comments on: The Diels-Alder Reaction https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2017/08/30/the-diels-alder-reaction/ Fri, 12 Jul 2024 02:03:59 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.2 By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2017/08/30/the-diels-alder-reaction/#comment-688257 Tue, 19 Mar 2024 19:30:14 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=10900#comment-688257 In reply to Kevin Kelly.

We’re all to various degrees bumping into things in a dark room and gradually finding where the light switch is.

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By: Kevin Kelly https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2017/08/30/the-diels-alder-reaction/#comment-688136 Mon, 18 Mar 2024 18:22:39 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=10900#comment-688136 Thank you James. What’s the German expression for “the moment when you realize you are much more lost than you thought you were?”

“Lakewood Avenue? That’s in Springfield. You’re in Dixon, son.”

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2017/08/30/the-diels-alder-reaction/#comment-688133 Mon, 18 Mar 2024 17:38:27 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=10900#comment-688133 In reply to Kevin.

Thanks for the commment. It is not a single resonant pi bond. There is a small *barrier* to rotation about the C2-C3 bond (about 2-3 kcal/mol) but this is not the same as breaking a pi bond. For breakage of a pi bond you would need to have a barrier to rotation of about 60 kcal/mol.

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By: Kevin https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2017/08/30/the-diels-alder-reaction/#comment-688072 Mon, 18 Mar 2024 03:40:03 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=10900#comment-688072 For this reaction, you list three pi bonds being broken — two on the diene, one on the dienophile.

But on the diene, since the two pi bonds (as drawn on a Lewis diagram) are conjugated, isn’t it actually just a single resonant conjugated pi bond, stretching from C1-C4 in the case of butadiene?

Saying it another way, aren’t we really breaking one bond on the diene, not two?

Also, in terms of rotation on the diene, I thought that atoms participating in a conjugated pi bond cannot rotate because the p-orbitals need to be aligned for the conjugation to occur — so the alignment of the p-orbitals is preventing the rotation between the C2 and C3 carbons.

So if the s-cis and s-trans dienes are conformers, and there is rotation around the C2-C3 bond, then that means there can be rotation around at least certain conjugated pi bond, right?

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By: Yaswanth https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2017/08/30/the-diels-alder-reaction/#comment-629174 Sun, 05 Jun 2022 02:37:51 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=10900#comment-629174 Should we memorize this reaction? What is the reason for the reaction to undergo?

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By: Samsul Bhakri https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2017/08/30/the-diels-alder-reaction/#comment-601523 Fri, 28 May 2021 10:30:04 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=10900#comment-601523 As a beginner, I am so fortunate able to eventually discover the DA reaction theory in detail. I can’t thank you enough.

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2017/08/30/the-diels-alder-reaction/#comment-597825 Fri, 12 Feb 2021 18:18:36 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=10900#comment-597825 In reply to Ian.

Glad you’ve found it helpful Ian! Let me know if you find any typos/mistakes. Thanks

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By: Ian https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2017/08/30/the-diels-alder-reaction/#comment-597789 Thu, 11 Feb 2021 18:13:15 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=10900#comment-597789 Thank you so much for these excellent posts! They’ve helped me more than any single learning tool I’ve found so far- really nice content!!

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2017/08/30/the-diels-alder-reaction/#comment-583834 Wed, 26 Aug 2020 20:37:27 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=10900#comment-583834 In reply to Sez.

It is not immediately obvious. Relevant study: https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs.joc.5b00174

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By: La reazione di Diels Alder: una cicloaddizione molto utile https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2017/08/30/the-diels-alder-reaction/#comment-583822 Wed, 26 Aug 2020 16:32:43 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=10900#comment-583822 […] sottolineato l’importanza, l’utilità e l’attualità di questa reazione, come Woodward, premio nobel nel 1965, e Corey premio Nobel nel […]

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