Comments on: Activating and Deactivating Groups In Electrophilic Aromatic Substitution https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2017/09/26/activating-and-deactivating-groups-in-electrophilic-aromatic-substitution/ Tue, 13 Aug 2024 21:47:06 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.2 By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2017/09/26/activating-and-deactivating-groups-in-electrophilic-aromatic-substitution/#comment-636864 Thu, 01 Sep 2022 14:32:05 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=11001#comment-636864 In reply to Shreyas VKR.

Measure the rate of the reaction with benzene. Then see what happens to the rate when one of the hydrogens on benzene is replaced by a different substituent like Cl, CH3, NO2, etc.

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2017/09/26/activating-and-deactivating-groups-in-electrophilic-aromatic-substitution/#comment-624508 Wed, 13 Apr 2022 03:47:46 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=11001#comment-624508 In reply to Daniel.

If the electrophile does *not* hit the double bond, you are correct that a normal alkene should be slightly activating since it can act as a pi donor.

HOWEVER, One problem is that alkenes will react more easily with electrophiles than will the aromatic ring, so they are often destroyed during attempted electrophilic aromatic substitution. Attempted chlorination of styrene, for example, will end up hitting the alkene.

Electrophilic aromatic substitution can work when the alkene is in conjugation with an electron withdrawing group such as an ester, which helps to make the alkene more electron-poor.

Is there a specific example you are thinking about?

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By: Daniel https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2017/09/26/activating-and-deactivating-groups-in-electrophilic-aromatic-substitution/#comment-624500 Wed, 13 Apr 2022 01:17:19 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=11001#comment-624500 I do not see addressed a substituent such as an alkene…specifically a c double bonded to another carbon from the benzene ring. Is this deactivating because of resonance? Or activating because resonance is unlikely given it produces an unstable carbon anion?

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By: Patricia Zingg https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2017/09/26/activating-and-deactivating-groups-in-electrophilic-aromatic-substitution/#comment-600518 Mon, 03 May 2021 21:16:03 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=11001#comment-600518 Will p-methoxybenzenesulfonic acid undergo a Freidel Crafts reaction?

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By: Sakshi https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2017/09/26/activating-and-deactivating-groups-in-electrophilic-aromatic-substitution/#comment-589743 Fri, 18 Dec 2020 12:30:47 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=11001#comment-589743 Thank you so much…this page is a concept clearer….all the explanation part done

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2017/09/26/activating-and-deactivating-groups-in-electrophilic-aromatic-substitution/#comment-587858 Tue, 10 Nov 2020 15:50:40 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=11001#comment-587858 In reply to steven.

I will take that as a compliment, Steven. Thanks

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By: steven https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2017/09/26/activating-and-deactivating-groups-in-electrophilic-aromatic-substitution/#comment-587645 Fri, 06 Nov 2020 20:36:47 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=11001#comment-587645 you should rewrite the section on “Halides competing effects” on the wikipedia page for “electrophilic aromatic directing groups”

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By: Organophile https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2017/09/26/activating-and-deactivating-groups-in-electrophilic-aromatic-substitution/#comment-586147 Thu, 15 Oct 2020 18:47:09 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=11001#comment-586147 I just found out this blog and it’s make chemistry so simple and easy thanks for such an amazing blog

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By: Shreyas VKR https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2017/09/26/activating-and-deactivating-groups-in-electrophilic-aromatic-substitution/#comment-580955 Mon, 08 Jun 2020 02:11:55 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=11001#comment-580955 🙏]]> Sir,ACTIVATING and DEACTIVATING groups are defined with RELATIVE TO HYDROGEN. What does RELATIVE TO HYDROGEN really mean??
Please help me to sort it out sir🙏🙏

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By: Proyanshu Garai https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2017/09/26/activating-and-deactivating-groups-in-electrophilic-aromatic-substitution/#comment-580562 Tue, 26 May 2020 21:10:13 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=11001#comment-580562 Which is more reacting among NR2 NHR NH2 OH?

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