Comments on: The Gabriel Synthesis https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2018/01/31/the-gabriel-synthesis/ Tue, 07 Feb 2023 18:07:07 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.2 By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2018/01/31/the-gabriel-synthesis/#comment-647556 Tue, 07 Feb 2023 18:07:07 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=11303#comment-647556 In reply to Ashutosh Kumar.

The nitrogen atom is not actually that bulky. The entire phthalimide molecule is flat and lies behind the nitrogen. It won’t result in steric hindrance between the nitrogen lone pair and the sigma-star orbital of the alkyl halide.

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By: Ashutosh Kumar https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2018/01/31/the-gabriel-synthesis/#comment-647545 Tue, 07 Feb 2023 13:26:44 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=11303#comment-647545 Phthalimide ion have bulky group ,So how can it act as a nucleophile?

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2018/01/31/the-gabriel-synthesis/#comment-636351 Fri, 26 Aug 2022 17:08:52 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=11303#comment-636351 In reply to Cindy.

Good question! The advantage of using NaH is that it is a poor nucleophile and has no chance of reacting with our alkyl halide. (If we used NaOH, for instance, I might worry about performing an SN2 on that alkyl halide).

Another advantage is that it deprotonates the phthalimide irreversibly – there’s no equilibrium – and that the conjugate acid of H(-) is just H2, which bubbles away.

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By: Cindy https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2018/01/31/the-gabriel-synthesis/#comment-620322 Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:19:31 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=11303#comment-620322 Why is a strong base needed when that proton is already very acidic?

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2018/01/31/the-gabriel-synthesis/#comment-599873 Fri, 16 Apr 2021 20:24:28 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=11303#comment-599873 In reply to Corentin.

What happens is that the iodide ion (a good nucleophile!) acts as a nucleophile on the alkyl halide, creating an alkyl iodide, (which has a great leaving group), and then this is displaced by the nucleophile in the Gabriel.

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By: Corentin https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2018/01/31/the-gabriel-synthesis/#comment-599753 Mon, 12 Apr 2021 15:51:45 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=11303#comment-599753 I saw in the litterature that KI or NaI can be used as catalyst for this reaction but I don’t understand how are they reacting. Can someone help me ?

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2018/01/31/the-gabriel-synthesis/#comment-578885 Wed, 08 Apr 2020 04:28:02 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=11303#comment-578885 In reply to Al.

For introductory organic chemistry purposes, it doesn’t really matter. The mechanism is a little easier to draw out with KOH.

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By: Al https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2018/01/31/the-gabriel-synthesis/#comment-578746 Sat, 04 Apr 2020 07:53:25 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=11303#comment-578746 My book uses KOH instead of N2H4 for the last step, resulting in the sideproduct of deprotonated phthalic acid. Is one way better?

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By: Gabriel Synthesis: Definition, Examples, and Mechanism https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2018/01/31/the-gabriel-synthesis/#comment-576713 Wed, 19 Feb 2020 11:15:49 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=11303#comment-576713 […] Definition – Masterorganicchemistry.com […]

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By: Victor https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2018/01/31/the-gabriel-synthesis/#comment-527125 Wed, 31 Jan 2018 20:05:26 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=11303#comment-527125 Yeah, maybe not the most useful, but represents a noticeable historical significance. Just like making a 2,4-DNPH-ide of a carbonyl. Obsolete, yet, historically important.

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