Comments on: The Four Intermolecular Forces and How They Affect Boiling Points https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2010/10/01/how-intermolecular-forces-affect-boiling-points/ Sun, 10 Sep 2023 14:00:36 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.2 By: Sivesh https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2010/10/01/how-intermolecular-forces-affect-boiling-points/#comment-670995 Sun, 10 Sep 2023 14:00:36 +0000 http://masterorganicchemistry.wordpress.com/?p=930#comment-670995 How does intramolecular hydrogen bonding affect boiling point? For example, in o-nitrophenol does intramolecular hydrogen bonding reduce the boiling point than if no hydrogen bonding was present?

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By: Mohamed https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2010/10/01/how-intermolecular-forces-affect-boiling-points/#comment-598743 Sun, 14 Mar 2021 11:16:21 +0000 http://masterorganicchemistry.wordpress.com/?p=930#comment-598743 what about ion-dipole interactions? these also exist right? where would it be in your ionic>hydrogen bonding>dipole-dipole>dispersion hierarchy?

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2010/10/01/how-intermolecular-forces-affect-boiling-points/#comment-587018 Tue, 27 Oct 2020 17:30:49 +0000 http://masterorganicchemistry.wordpress.com/?p=930#comment-587018 In reply to Jacob.

Depends on the atmospheric pressure. Boiling occurs when vapor pressure is equivalent to atmospheric pressure. If the pressure of the atmosphere is still atmospheric pressure (760 torr / 1 bar / 101.25 kPa) then the boiling point should remain the same.

For gases heavier than air, however, it will require fewer moles of gas to achieve that pressure. For instance if you had a two chambers, one with argon and one with air, each with equivalent molar amounts of gas, then the pressure in the argon chamber would be higher and therefore the bp of the liquid in the argon chamber would be higher due to the fact that one mole of argon weighs more than one mole of air. Does that make sense?

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By: Jacob https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2010/10/01/how-intermolecular-forces-affect-boiling-points/#comment-586798 Sat, 24 Oct 2020 13:15:10 +0000 http://masterorganicchemistry.wordpress.com/?p=930#comment-586798 Does the atmosphere also affect the boiling point? example, if I replace the atmosphere in a chamber with carbon dioxide or neon, would that change the boiling point?

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By: Sourav Pathak https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2010/10/01/how-intermolecular-forces-affect-boiling-points/#comment-578798 Mon, 06 Apr 2020 09:09:46 +0000 http://masterorganicchemistry.wordpress.com/?p=930#comment-578798 Can you please comment on the directional or non directional nature of the following interactions:
1. Dipole-Dipole
2.Dipole-Induced Dipole
3. Ion-Dipole &
4. Ion-Induced Dipole
Your articles are of great help! Thank You!

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2010/10/01/how-intermolecular-forces-affect-boiling-points/#comment-555511 Tue, 21 May 2019 04:07:32 +0000 http://masterorganicchemistry.wordpress.com/?p=930#comment-555511 In reply to Holly.

Heptane weakest. Pentanoic acid strongest. Hexanoyl… do you mean hexanol?

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By: Holly https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2010/10/01/how-intermolecular-forces-affect-boiling-points/#comment-555353 Fri, 17 May 2019 01:41:08 +0000 http://masterorganicchemistry.wordpress.com/?p=930#comment-555353 How are the following substances ranked, from weakest intermolecular force, to the strongest attractions. Heptane, Hexanoyl, Pentanoic acid, and Propyl ethanoate.

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By: Tino https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2010/10/01/how-intermolecular-forces-affect-boiling-points/#comment-535857 Wed, 25 Jul 2018 22:06:01 +0000 http://masterorganicchemistry.wordpress.com/?p=930#comment-535857 In reply to Bob.

By NH4, I assume you mean NH4+. Compounds that contain NH4+ have ionic bonds, and thus should have higher boiling points than compounds without ionic bonds, like CH3OH.

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By: James https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2010/10/01/how-intermolecular-forces-affect-boiling-points/#comment-534585 Mon, 25 Jun 2018 17:31:16 +0000 http://masterorganicchemistry.wordpress.com/?p=930#comment-534585 In reply to Marc G. Taylor, Ph.D..

Thank you for this long and eloquent response, Marc.

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By: Marc G. Taylor, Ph.D. https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2010/10/01/how-intermolecular-forces-affect-boiling-points/#comment-534403 Thu, 21 Jun 2018 21:11:55 +0000 http://masterorganicchemistry.wordpress.com/?p=930#comment-534403 In reply to Harald.

Just a bit clarity:

1) “Electronegativity” is a measurement of how strongly an atom wishes to hold onto its valence electrons. There are at least 5 different versions of this value, each calculated a slightly different way, though most chemists refer to (Linus) Pauling’s electronegativity, as he came up with the first method of calculation. Incidentally, his method only measures electronegativity differences (see below), so the electronegativity of hydrogen was SET at 2.20, and every other atom’s electronegativity is relative to that value.

2) “Polarity” is a term that reflects how DIFFERENT the electronegativities are of two bonded atoms.
a) That is, polarity is always relative to the electronegativity difference between TWO atoms, and it not related to any one atom.
b) bonds with an electronegativity DIFFERENCE greater than 0 (that is, any bond that is not between two identical atoms, which is considered to be a pure covalent bond) is technically a polar bond, but the convention is that the difference should be greater than 0.5 to be considered realistically polar.
c) once that difference is greater than some threshold (different chemists have identified the cut-off at 1.7, 1.8, 2.0, or 2.2 that I know of), the electrons that compose the bond have been completely (or nearly completely) captured by the more electronegative atom. This results in one atom having a full negative charge (an anion) and one atom having a full positive charge (a cation). They are no longer sharing the electrons, but the electrostatic attraction of two oppositely charged ions, called the ionic bond, is quite strong; frequently of higher binding energy than typical covalent bonds (non-polar or polar).
d) the reality is that even with the two atoms that having the highest (F) and lowest electronegativities (Fr), the difference in electronegativity still results in a bond with only about 92% ionic character. That is, nearly every bond that we refer to as “ionic” actually still has a little bit of covalent (i.e., shared electron) character.

I hope that this helps. I have no idea how long ago you posted your question.

Marc

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