Comments on: Allylic Bromination https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2013/11/25/allylic-bromination/ Fri, 27 Sep 2024 17:56:39 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.2 By: karan pratap singh https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2013/11/25/allylic-bromination/#comment-700392 Fri, 19 Jul 2024 14:42:05 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=7708#comment-700392 i am doing bromination reaction with use of dibromo dimethyl hydantoin 0.54 mole but i found dibromo impurity level well above to 10.5%,so how i can reduce di bromo impurity to below 3.0%

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2013/11/25/allylic-bromination/#comment-643911 Wed, 07 Dec 2022 18:06:46 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=7708#comment-643911 In reply to Jay.

You can, as in this procedure: http://www.orgsyn.org/demo.aspx?prep=CV4P0984

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By: Jay https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2013/11/25/allylic-bromination/#comment-598338 Sun, 28 Feb 2021 05:42:36 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=7708#comment-598338 Why can’t you use Br2 and peroxides for benzylic cases?

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2013/11/25/allylic-bromination/#comment-585364 Fri, 25 Sep 2020 16:00:28 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=7708#comment-585364 In reply to Lee.

It is standard procedure in many reactions to add a slight molar excess (e.g. 10%) of a reagent just to ensure completion of the reaction. I have not seen analyses of “bad” NBS to quantify just how high the Br2 content can get, but I would not expect it to be more than 10%.

So my short answer is no, not to any significant extent that it would impair the yield by more than 10%.

If there *is* a lot of Br2 present, two things could happen. First, if the impure NBS is just added to solution and dissolved, without adding alkene first, the Br2 that has been liberated can re-combine with succinimide (this is, after all, how NBS is formed).
If a relatively high concentration of Br2 persists, then what is more likely is that one would start to see dibromination of the alkene (i.e. addition of Br2) across the double bond, since bromination tends to be 3rd order overall, and low concentrations of Br2 avoid this side reaction.
In this case, then there would again a lower yield of the desired product, but not double addition of bromine.

If a large excess of NBS is added, then yes, it could start to be an issue.

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By: Lee https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2013/11/25/allylic-bromination/#comment-585308 Wed, 23 Sep 2020 23:07:56 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=7708#comment-585308 If the NBS you are using happens to be significantly contaminated with HBr/Br2, is it then possible to add more than one bromine?

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2013/11/25/allylic-bromination/#comment-565318 Fri, 27 Sep 2019 01:53:08 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=7708#comment-565318 In reply to Rich.

You will need to identify what will be the kinetic and thermodynamic product. https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2017/03/22/reactions-of-dienes-12-and-14-addition/

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By: Rich https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2013/11/25/allylic-bromination/#comment-565284 Thu, 26 Sep 2019 18:27:15 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=7708#comment-565284 What will be the product when 3- methylene cyclohexene react with HBr? Explain

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2013/11/25/allylic-bromination/#comment-556888 Tue, 25 Jun 2019 03:54:59 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=7708#comment-556888 In reply to lol.

Usually you want a solvent that has a reasonably high boiling point since the initiation step requires heat. Dichloromethane is pretty low boiling. You could go for dichloroethane instead. (83 C° versus 40 C°)

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2013/11/25/allylic-bromination/#comment-556887 Tue, 25 Jun 2019 03:52:57 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=7708#comment-556887 In reply to Erica.

Yes.

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2013/11/25/allylic-bromination/#comment-554693 Fri, 03 May 2019 17:34:55 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=7708#comment-554693 In reply to Dave Blackburn.

Thanks Dave. Does L&R point to the original literature reference?

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