Comments on: Chiral Allenes And Chiral Axes https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2015/01/13/chiral-allenes-and-chiral-axes/ Thu, 10 Oct 2024 17:40:46 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.2 By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2015/01/13/chiral-allenes-and-chiral-axes/#comment-706565 Thu, 12 Sep 2024 17:19:27 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=8674#comment-706565 In reply to karan.

For molecules with an axis of chirality, one looks along the chiral axis and numbers the substituents on the near carbon (1) or (2) according to the CIP rules. One then looks at the substituents on the far carbon and numbers them (3) or (4) according to the CIP rules. One then notes whether 1,2,3 goes clockwise (r) or counterclockwise (s). See this article (wikipedia) for an example:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axial_chirality

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By: karan https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2015/01/13/chiral-allenes-and-chiral-axes/#comment-706171 Tue, 10 Sep 2024 03:58:50 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=8674#comment-706171 can we assign R and S nomenclature for 3 cumulative diene between 4 carbon atoms. for eg C=C=C=C type systems.

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2015/01/13/chiral-allenes-and-chiral-axes/#comment-693343 Fri, 10 May 2024 17:02:49 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=8674#comment-693343 In reply to Aman Aryatosh.

Yes, that’s a valid answer

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By: Aman Aryatosh https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2015/01/13/chiral-allenes-and-chiral-axes/#comment-693299 Fri, 10 May 2024 07:17:33 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=8674#comment-693299 So can we generalize the fact that if the number of double bonds are even with different groups at the ends then the molecule has to be achiral?

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2015/01/13/chiral-allenes-and-chiral-axes/#comment-676419 Thu, 09 Nov 2023 17:11:19 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=8674#comment-676419 In reply to Zeri.

No, it is referred to as a chiral axis since chirality is not confined to the configuration of a single carbon.

Kind of like how a screw is chiral (left handed or right handed) but you can’t pinpoint an individual center of chirality; instead, it has an axis of chirality as well.

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By: Zeri https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2015/01/13/chiral-allenes-and-chiral-axes/#comment-676378 Thu, 09 Nov 2023 06:40:47 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=8674#comment-676378 Does a chiral allene contain stereogenic centres? Can we say that the two carbons at the ends are the stereogenic centres?

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2015/01/13/chiral-allenes-and-chiral-axes/#comment-640184 Thu, 13 Oct 2022 18:31:29 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=8674#comment-640184 In reply to Madiha zeb.

See bottom of post.

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By: Madiha zeb https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2015/01/13/chiral-allenes-and-chiral-axes/#comment-640150 Thu, 13 Oct 2022 10:41:29 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=8674#comment-640150 ( H cl c=c=c=c H cl ) absolute configuration of it . And why it is optically inactive

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2015/01/13/chiral-allenes-and-chiral-axes/#comment-611728 Mon, 08 Nov 2021 21:26:47 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=8674#comment-611728 In reply to Richard Aversa.

Darnit. Will fix. Thank you Rich. [EDIT: fixed]

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By: Richard Aversa https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2015/01/13/chiral-allenes-and-chiral-axes/#comment-611070 Sat, 06 Nov 2021 00:30:47 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=8674#comment-611070 Great work as always James. In Section 4, right after the line “Now: what happens if we add a second group to the same carbon?” you show a disubstituted allene structure with two Cl substituents on different ends of the allene, when I believe you meant to show them on the same carbon (to represent an achiral disubstituted allene). Keep up the good work.

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